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哈啦 2005-12-22 05:29 AM

一些網名相關的詐騙電郵
 
由於常常有剛接觸網域名稱市場的版友會接到一些詐騙電郵,不外乎是要騙你去給你的網名估價,因此在本主題特別將一些版友常會接到的信件內容貼出來。如果以後有類似內容的文件就知道是假的求購信了。

Hello,

I'm contacting you regarding your domain name for sale.

Did you get offers from other people?

I need to know your desired price. Please don't ask to make an offer. Just email the desired price.

I run a software company. We develop client-server systems and databases in Oracle for a local company. Buying and selling domain names is not my main business. Just another way to invest money and make additional income.

Best regards,
Mark Fasciano Ph.D.
President
Back Office Software Engineering


如果你看了上封信而回復對方後,會接著過來下封電郵,並要你去給你的網名估價:

Do you have a developed web site? If not, it's not a problem. I'm intersted in the domain name.

Do you have an independent valuation from industry experts (appraisal)? I need an appraisal certificate for domain priced in your range. I consider your name as an investment. In other words I'm going to sell your name later and make a profit. If I overpay I won't be able to make a profit in the future. It's very important for you and me to know the current market value of your domain.

Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging a reputable appraisal company. I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. I will only accept appraisals from independent appraisal companies I know and trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies in a forum
http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/48053.htm

Juck check this posting.

If the appraisal comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly.

After I get an appraisal from you we'll continue our negotiations.

How do you prefer to get paid: www.PayPal.com, www.escrow.com, check or wire?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

哈啦 2005-12-22 05:34 AM

它文中的 http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/48053.htm 是個假的論壇文件,裡面捏造一些人自唱自答,再抄襲別人的文章把afternic.com罵一頓,並且故意列出greatdomains.com和他們真正要推銷的那家什麼allfordomains。是一個在網路上已流傳很久的詐騙手段了,而且多年來都一樣。

lisx 2005-12-22 08:09 AM

我差點上當。幸虧他地址打不開。長見識了。。

passbyword 2005-12-22 09:59 AM

他给我几个不同的米发过相同的mail.

kjl 2005-12-22 10:29 AM

更可怕的是
我有一次收到了一个链接,打开之后和DotTK的登陆截面是一模一样的
可惜是德文的,我看不懂
当我正准备登陆的时候,突然发现它的地址和我原来使用的地址不一样
再看看给我的链接,那根本就不是DotTK的地址
原来是个假的,想骗我的DotTK的帐号和密码!
如果真的被骗了,那可就惨了,里面有info.tk kids.tkjapan.tk

licheng 2005-12-22 11:58 AM

我最近也收到一封同樣的信件。

第一個反應就是,「詐騙」。

為什麼那麼有把握?

因為好像在本站有看過類似的討論,有著類似的信件內容。上來搜尋一下,果不其然。

感謝版上諸位前輩的經驗分享。不然,真的很可能信以為真。 :bow

lisx 2005-12-22 06:07 PM

看看第三個信箋 是否真的是詐騙
I wanted to suggest you Afternic.com as an appraiser, but I found the
following information about them
http://www.out-law.com/page-1630
http://forum.icann.org/nsi2001/3AC75D7900000305.html
So Afternic.com is not acceptable.

I heard many appraisal companies often overpriced domains. So I cannot
accept appraisal from each and every site.

Reading responses from experienced sellers I was impressed by one reply:
"Many Internet users are not smart enough and popular domain brokers are
using this fact to make money. They offer them cheap appraisal services. But
if their customers would have something in their heads they'd understand
experts could not make a professional research for $15-$20. These appraisals
are made by machines. Easy money for such appraisers as
http://www.Afternic.com and several other major brokers that offer cheap
auto-generated appraisals. In my eyes, all services under $50-$55 are not
manual and the results are generated by special scripts. I don't trust
auto-generated appraisals."

To avoid mistakes I asked about reputable appraisers in a forum. Several
experts recommended me AllDomains' appraisal service -
http://www.allfordomains.com/appraise.asp as a fast, accurate and
non-expensive manual service.

I also trust the manual appraisal service from http://www.DomainMart.com but
it's very expensive - $200/hour. This service was also recommended by many
people but I thought it was too expensive. But if you can afford
DomainMart.com's fee it's ok with me.

哈啦 2005-12-22 06:53 PM

引用:

作者: lisx
看看第三個信箋 是否真的是詐騙
I wanted to suggest you Afternic.com as an appraiser, but I found the
following information about them
http://www.out-law.com/page-1630
http://forum.icann.org/nsi2001/3AC75D7900000305.html
So Afternic.com is not acceptable.

I heard many appraisal companies often overpriced domains. So I cannot
accept appraisal from each and every site.

Reading responses from experienced sellers I was impressed by one reply:
"Many Internet users are not smart enough and popular domain brokers are
using this fact to make money. They offer them cheap appraisal services. But
if their customers would have something in their heads they'd understand
experts could not make a professional research for $15-$20. These appraisals
are made by machines. Easy money for such appraisers as
http://www.Afternic.com and several other major brokers that offer cheap
auto-generated appraisals. In my eyes, all services under $50-$55 are not
manual and the results are generated by special scripts. I don't trust
auto-generated appraisals."

To avoid mistakes I asked about reputable appraisers in a forum. Several
experts recommended me AllDomains' appraisal service -
http://www.allfordomains.com/appraise.asp as a fast, accurate and
non-expensive manual service.

I also trust the manual appraisal service from http://www.DomainMart.com but
it's very expensive - $200/hour. This service was also recommended by many
people but I thought it was too expensive. But if you can afford
DomainMart.com's fee it's ok with me.


還是一樣的詐騙信,要你去allfordomains估價。

hungboy 2006-02-08 01:25 PM

现在才看到,我也收到了这种信.后来我上网问了一下,知道是骗我钱的,我就回信让他自己去评估,交易的时候再把这个钱扣掉,他就没语了:)

polin 2006-02-08 02:03 PM

最近也有人假冒DNForum的Webmaster說要招募Moderator
然後伺機騙取你的帳號密碼
他會用webmaster@dnforum.com這個email加你的MSN
你如果接受的話,在MSN List會看到這樣的狀況
webmaster@dnforum.com(電子郵件地址尚未確認)

不過他騙密碼的方式蠻爛的
(1)他會先問你想要設定的Moderator的密碼,這就是個破綻!!
如果你跟他說random,他會進行下一個策略
(2)爲了確保你真的是DNF上的某某某,他會要你告訴他DNF上的密碼
(3)他還會問你銀行帳號之類的...

大家小心別被騙...另外,最近也很多假冒ebay的來信...大家也要小心...它給連結都不是ebay的網址

bofy 2006-02-15 09:40 PM

我都看不懂...
哇哈哈....

lukawa 2006-03-10 02:50 PM

我也收到了~angryred

內容大同小異,真是的,要騙人也認真一點嘛
感謝各位提供寶貴的經驗,這樣才不會有人再受騙啦



Do you offer a web site or domain name only? I'm mostly interested in names.

Do you have an appraisal certificate? Do you have an appraisal certificate?


Domain name is an investment for me. In other words I'm going to sell your name later and make a profit. If I overpay I won't be able to make a profit in the future. It's very important for you and me to know the current market value of your domain.

Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging a reputable appraisal company. I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. I will only accept appraisals from independent sources I trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies in a forum

http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/62049.htm

Juck check this posting.

If the appraisal comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. I also hope you can give me 10% - 15%discount of the appraised value because I need a room to make profit.

After I get an appraisal from you we'll continue our negotiations.

How do you prefer to get paid: www.PayPal.com, www.escrow.com, check or wire?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

nickyeahyeah 2006-03-10 03:08 PM

~coolguy
我也有收過幾個類似的, 不過被 Gmail 放進了 Spam 那裡~
他們應該是在 GreatDomains 那找目標, 再 WHOIS 查 email 的吧.....

JORDAN 2006-04-04 03:19 PM

今天也收到一封
問題是他標題的域名不是我的:shock:
這是最新讓人混淆的詐騙法嗎?~dead

Hello,

Did you get offers from other people already?

What is your price for the domain mentioned in the subject line?

I'm very interested in this name.

I run a software company. We develop client-server systems and databases in MS SQL and Delphi. Buying and selling domain names is not my main business. Just another way to invest money and make additional income.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Best regards,
Thomas Blindheim Ph.D.
CEO
Opera Engineering

nickyeahyeah 2006-04-04 06:43 PM

把裡面的 keyword 放進 spam filter 就不用煩了

channelbuy 2006-04-07 02:00 AM

Opera Engineering <blindheim@operaen.com> 致 我
更多选项 16:15 (9小时前)


Hello,

Did you get offers from other people already?

What is your price for the domain mentioned in the subject line?

I'm very interested in this name.

I run a software company. We develop client-server systems and databases in MS SQL and Delphi. Buying and selling domain names is not my main business. Just another way to invest money and make additional income.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Best regards,
Thomas Blindheim Ph.D.
CEO
Opera Engineering

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again!他怎麽不累啊!

DNSells 2006-04-16 12:28 PM

呵呵,收过几次这类email,不过一次都没上当~iwin
可惜我没留着那些email地址了

moonswamp 2006-05-08 05:52 PM

这可要小心了,我是新手,一定要多看看这些

rcjucom 2006-07-27 06:13 PM

我也收到了这样的信,回他说让他开价,然后他开价USD5000。。。俺一看就乐了,后面再看到他说要做什么鉴定。。。差点又哭了。。。骗人的啊

imsky 2006-07-31 09:39 AM

Hi,there, I am so interest in this domain name, but because of the basic budget, I could offer u 4000 GBP, I beleve this is a reasonable offer, plz let me know, thx

信箱是 k.m@firstfound.co.uk

真的假的啊,我回信发不出去

imsky 2006-07-31 09:47 AM

Hi,there, I am so interest in this domain name, but because of the basic budget, I could offer u 4000 GBP, I beleve this is a reasonable offer, plz let me know, thx

信箱是 k.m@firstfound.co.uk

真的假的啊,我回信发不出去

net-ic 2006-08-02 01:20 AM

偶也收到过,这种格式化的东东一看就是假的

idnshop 2006-08-11 07:08 PM

現在的騙子真是多阿 受教!

JORDAN 2006-08-29 04:26 AM

請問這個也是詐騙吧?:XD:

=====================================

Hello,

Our company develops software. Investing in domains is an additional way to generate income.

Please email me price for your domain name mentioned in the subject line. If it's reasonable we'll do business.

If you have other domain names for sale please send us the complete list with prices for consideration.

I'm a very busy person so it may take several hours before I respond :-)

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Mark Hansen
Vice President
Opera Software

kam 2006-08-29 03:01 PM

我懷疑有些騙子可能是論壇中的版友...~sucks

當天...我在這裡貼了manfashion.biz 後幾小時...

就收到 跟 JORDAN 大大 一樣都e-mail...

p.s 當時我還沒在其他論壇 貼我的Manfashion.biz..

骑蜗牛作战 2006-09-16 08:54 AM

我也差點上當。晕!晕!晕!晕!晕!晕!晕!晕!

小小邱 2006-09-18 12:02 AM

谢谢前辈哦,长知识了,开始我也收过一次,好在也是论坛的朋友指点

哈啦 2006-09-18 12:53 AM

引用:

作者: kam
我懷疑有些騙子可能是論壇中的版友...~sucks

當天...我在這裡貼了manfashion.biz 後幾小時...

就收到 跟 JORDAN 大大 一樣都e-mail...

p.s 當時我還沒在其他論壇 貼我的Manfashion.biz..

這是時間上的巧合吧?這些詐騙信都是用機器發的,直接從網址的whois下手。

netfounder 2006-12-06 02:42 PM

大家有没有收到过 holand lottery 的诈骗啊。哈哈

mister.ok 2006-12-25 11:27 AM

我都收到过类类似的邮件,当时感觉到非常高兴,幸好从朋友那里得知,这个是骗人的。

baobao 2006-12-28 02:17 PM

我怀疑这个骗人的可能是中国人。。因为我在论坛贴卖哪个域名,一会骗子的邮件就来了。

takkentt 2007-01-11 05:33 AM

繼續和他互動的結果,他發出這樣的訊息

But first of all, I need a proof that our price is fair. I hope you
understand the importance of this question.

Usually, people who are selling names or web sites, provide buyers with
appraisals. This is a common practice and I'm not going to change this rule
because it's the best way to protect an investment.

I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. So I
cannot accept appraisal from each and every site. I will only accept
appraisals from independent appraisal companies I know and trust.

Reading responses from experienced sellers I was impressed by one reply:
"Many Internet users are not smart enough and popular domain brokers are
using this fact to make money. They offer them cheap appraisal services. But
if their customers would have something in their heads they'd understand
experts could not make a professional research for $15-$20. These appraisals
are made by machines. Easy money for such appraisers as
http://www.Afternic.com and several other major brokers that offer cheap
auto-generated appraisals. In my eyes, all services under $60-$65 are not
manual and the results are generated by special scripts. I don't trust
auto-generated appraisals."

The same is true for GoDaddy and SEDO. Their services are not manual. They
are just collecting money using their well-known names.

Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to do business with you.


真不知道他會到第幾封才會死心

已經按照網友提供的回應方法, 他還是繼續互動下去XD

vnjmym 2007-01-22 07:23 AM

this is 詐騙電郵嗎?
雖然都是要估價
但沒有提http://www.allfordomains.com/appraise.asp

Do you sell the name only without web site? I'm interested in the name so web site is not so important.

Do you have an appraisal certificate for your domain name?

Domain name is an investment for me. In other words I'm going to sell your name later and make a profit. If I overpay I won't be able to make a profit in the future. It's very important for you and me to know the current market value of your domain.

Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging a reputable appraisal company. I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. I will only accept appraisals from independent sources I trust.
I heard some appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies in a forum
http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/261947.htm

Just check this posting.

If the appraisal comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. I also hope you can give me 10% - 15% discount of the appraised value.

After I get an appraisal from you we'll continue our negotiations.

How do you prefer to get paid: www.escrow.com, www.PayPal.com check or wire?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

哈啦 2007-07-04 04:49 PM

剛看到一封類似的詐騙信,現在甚至在第一封信就會列出他願意出幾千美金的offer,看起來很像真的。沒有經驗的人接到這種信大概都樂昏頭了。

引用:

I am interested in purchasing your domain name, *****.com. I am only interested in the domain and not any web site which may be associated with it.

My offer for this domain is $8,055.00. This is a genuine offer and it may be negotiable depending on the domain's traffic/visitors.

realtop 2007-08-03 11:14 AM

可以回信請對方自己去估價.
..
願意花幾千美金買網域, 因該不在乎花幾十元美金當自己的保障吧
對方繼續虎濫就知道是騙子了

smartwen 2007-09-28 11:40 AM

恩,原來有這種事情

下次要注意一下了

new 2007-09-30 04:35 PM

了解

謝謝。。。。。。。。

jaka 2007-12-26 07:18 AM

我今天也收到一封類似的信件,我去查他的mail,竟然是用免費的信箱,我在想一間大公司或是專業的搜購網域公司,應該會有專屬的網站或mail吧~~我請他直接去sedo競標,我想請各位大大,幫我看一下,這應該也是類似詐騙信件吧~~

Hello,

We are interested in nuhi.org

Your name was listed for sale. Please let us know your price.

Our works in information technology industry. Our clients are mainly from Europe,
Australia, USA and Canada.

So investing in names is just a part of our investment strategy.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Merry Christmas to you and your family!

Regards,
Anthony Norris
President
TNG Services
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櫻井綾乃 2009-08-10 06:01 AM

今天接到這個..我該理他嗎...
是詐騙還是真有人要買啊...:shorto

是我一個.info的域名.
以前也收過很多類似樓上的.第一次收到這個有開價的說...

引用:

Dear Sir,
we are interested to buy your domain name 不便公布.INFO and offer 65% of the appraised market value.
As of now we accept appraisals from either one of the following leading appraisal companies:

sedo.com
pddomains.com
accuratedomains.com
If you already have an appraisal please forward it to us.

As soon as we have received your appraisal we will send you our payment (we use Paypal for amounts less than 4,000 and escrow.com for amounts above $4,000) as well as further instructions on how to complete the transfer of the domain name.

We appreciate your business,

Domain Resale

哈啦 2009-08-10 06:28 AM

引用:

作者: 櫻井綾乃 (文章 142290)
今天接到這個..我該理他嗎...
是詐騙還是真有人要買啊...:shorto

是我一個.info的域名.
以前也收過很多類似樓上的.第一次收到這個有開價的說...


要你去估價的都是假的。


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