沒輒了 ～ .ASIA Registry 涉嫌內線交易？

[kjl]

首先要考虑的问题是dotasia是港商么?

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其實利益輸送之事(若真有的話),
目前可能有的實體證據, 大概就是雙方之間的一紙契約 (約定將來如何分紅等事項),
因此若好好藏著, 是不容易被找到的.

但那些 超級關鍵字域名 若在五年內被拍賣或轉賣,
這就成了違規的具體證據 (因為他們都是以 商標保護 的名義去申請註冊的).

目前大家在質疑與不滿的, 是 .Asia Registry 的 CEO 竟然會認為
主控域名拍賣機制的 Pool.com 老闆的人頭公司 用商標的資格去申請並標走了幾十個超級關鍵字域名,
這並無不合宜或違規之事 .

我想 不少很在意公平競爭的老外, 是會把這個 issue 向 ICANN 投訴的.
不論 .Asia Registry 是不是港商, ICANN 有最直接的仲裁權來處理此事.

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[iei]

"樓上說:但不知跟 .Asia Registry 抗議是否有用？"
哈哈!那是請鬼抓藥一樣!
我有一些證據可能可以證明.Asia Registry就是始作俑者,我正在整理mail中.
各位大大可以先去http://dotasia.pool.com/網頁點選查詢以下連結:
"Click Master Auction Schedule for a schedule of all .ASIA domain auctions"
查詢你等待要競拍的*.asia域名是否被吃掉了,這可是Final Auction Schedule.csv版喔?????

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作者: iei

"樓上說:但不知跟 .Asia Registry 抗議是否有用？"
哈哈!那是請鬼抓藥一樣!
我有一些證據可能可以證明.Asia Registry就是始作俑者,我正在整理mail中.
各位大大可以先去http://dotasia.pool.com/網頁點選查詢以下連結:
"Click Master Auction Schedule for a schedule of all .ASIA domain auctions"
查詢你等待要競拍的*.asia域名是否被吃掉了,這可是Final Auction Schedule.csv版喔?????

Pool.com 網站上可下載的那個 Final Auction Schedule.csv
除了 missing 許多域名外, 拍賣日期也有不少謬誤 (月和年混淆 等).
NamePros 論壇上的老外一般的看法是 那是個有謬誤及未完整的 list.

連 Registry 在自己官網公告的 Landrush 期最多人 (四百多人) 申請的 BUY.Asia 都不在那個 list 上,

Pool.com 或 .Asia Registry 若連 BUY.Asia 都想 A 掉, 那也太過明目張膽了　～

(其官網 www.registry.asia 首頁 News Updates :
2008.03.13 -- .Asia Landrush Closes with Half a Million Domain Name Applications
Buy.Asia with most Applications in Landrush; Sex.Asia with most Applications in Sunrise )

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已另有補註, 請見以下　＃27

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[burninroom]

僅是這樣嗎?感覺上重要關鍵字,都沒在list中,整理名單要那麼久嗎?有點詭異!

[burninroom]

我有一個重要關鍵保留字*.com.tw當初依.Asia Registry公告
連結:http://www.dotasia.org/info/DotAsia-Sunrise-FINALCALL-TEMPLATE_TC.pdf上所示(藍色字)
"如果您已擁有在亞洲區內某些特定國家頂級域名(ccTLD)
內註冊的域名(例如﹕.com.au, .co.jp, .co.kr, .com.hk等等),您就自動合資格優先註冊.Asia域名",
但在我提出申請後,在開放個人的預註冊LandRush前兩天才被被.Asia Registry通知因為域名與公司名不同而判為資格不符.
那上述Asia Registry公告連結的DM是騙審查錢的了,先騙你繳錢申請審查,然後再找理由說你資格不符.

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作者: iei

"樓上說:但不知跟 .Asia Registry 抗議是否有用？"
哈哈!那是請鬼抓藥一樣!
我有一些證據可能可以證明.Asia Registry就是始作俑者,我正在整理mail中.
各位大大可以先去http://dotasia.pool.com/網頁點選查詢以下連結:
"Click Master Auction Schedule for a schedule of all .ASIA domain auctions"
查詢你等待要競拍的*.asia域名是否被吃掉了,這可是Final Auction Schedule.csv版喔?????

iei 兄的蒐證行動值得讚揚　

.Asia Registry 在其官網 post 了另一篇公告 回應別人對 .Asia 域名拍賣不公平的指控.

http://www.registry.asia/pressreleas...008-05-15.html


這次為了撇清與 Pool.com 勾結共謀的疑雲, “DotAsia also added that all auction activities are fully logged and that the organisation is prepared to cooperate with law enforcement agencies where appropriate to crack down on illegal and criminal activities at the .Asia auctions, if found. “

也就是說, 歡迎發現有不公平或不合宜的拍賣相關事項者向權威機關提報, DotAsia 則會配合調查來制裁不法的拍賣活動 .

公告文中, .Asia Registry 除了標榜自己是 非營利組織 外,
並強調
1. 域名拍賣的遊戲規則早在 2007 年初就已公告 . . . ,
2. 所有 Sunrise 期提出商標保護域名申請的 公司商標證明 的審核都是交由第三者公司 Deloitte and AGIP (Abu-Ghazaleh Intellectual Property) 去執行 . . . ,
以及
3. Pool.com 雖是 .Asia 域名拍賣平台的主事者, 他们及其相關公司不應該被剝奪 註冊或競標 .Asia 域名來保護其公司商標的權利 . . .

(其他內容請詳見原文 . )

有鑑於 .Asia Registry 強調的 域名拍賣的規則早在 2007 年初就已公告 之語,

Pool.com 在其網站公告並可供人下載的那份　Final Auction Schedule.csv,

其遺漏的一些熱門域名 (如 Buy.Asia 等) 若不被人蒐證舉發 ,
過了一段時間後當有多人發現時, DotAsia 會不會又有相似的辯解 :

那份 Final Auction Schedule.csv 早就於 2008 年五月就公告了, 而拍賣是依照公告的域名單來執行的 . . . 云云.

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作者: burninroom

我有一個重要關鍵保留字*.com.tw當初依.Asia Registry公告
連結:http://www.dotasia.org/info/DotAsia-Sunrise-FINALCALL-TEMPLATE_TC.pdf上所示(藍色字)
"如果您已擁有在亞洲區內某些特定國家頂級域名(ccTLD)
內註冊的域名(例如﹕.com.au, .co.jp, .co.kr, .com.hk等等),您就自動合資格優先註冊.Asia域名",
但在我提出申請後,在開放個人的預註冊LandRush前兩天才被被.Asia Registry通知因為域名與公司名不同而判為資格不符.
那上述Asia Registry公告連結的DM是騙審查錢的了,先騙你繳錢申請審查,然後再找理由說你資格不符.

burninroom 兄,

你手上握有明確的審核不公平的證據,

建議直接向　.Asia Registry　及　ICANN　提報,

保障你自己的權利（並且伸張正義）.

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The strange case of the .ASIA auctionsDATE_FORMAT_ENTRY

Did Pool, auction operator for the .ASIA Sunrise, rig some of the auctions to secure valuable names for itself or its CEO Richard Schreier?

Both Pool and .ASIA registry DotAsia have had to go into major damage control after being accused of auction rigging by Thomas Rucker and his company Madunia. On his website, Rucker claims that Schreier built up a complex network of shadow companies (see photo) to preempt the .ASIA Sunrise auctions and secure valuable names like porn.asia, insurance.asia or girls.asia.

In an email sent to DomainNews.com, Schreier responded by revealing that Rucker may be not squeaky clean himself: "We believe the actions taken by Thomas Rucker and Madunia Modellbau GmbH are a retaliation by Reucker/Madunia as a result of their exclusion from certain DotAsia auctions (which Reucker/Madunia itself discloses on the "notes" section of the website). This exclusion was the result of the investigation by Pool.com and the DotAsia Organisation into possible bid rigging (…) This investigation is proper and warranted. We will resist all efforts to interfere in this investigation or otherwise undermine the integrity of the .ASIA auctions."

The plot thickens…

Faced with claims by Rucker that he too was involved, DotAsia CEO Edmon Chung also responded through a couple of press releases. DotAsia Communications Manager Pavan Budhrani sent Domaines.info the latest one this morning. In it, Edmon is quoted as saying: "I can assure all .ASIA registrants and auction participants that our processes and systems are not compromised. Measures are in place, including arrangements specifically addressing conflict of interest situations and arms-length organisations with Pool.com, such as data confidentiality and escrow procedures."

Will this be enough to really put everyone's minds at ease? I'm not so sure. Is there any truth in these allegations? I honestly don't know. I can say that for those .ASIA auctions that INDOM was involved in, we have not detected any foul play at this stage.

I've said before that I don't like registry-run auctions, but it's also useful to remember that whatever the system used, all new extension launches seem to be plagued with allegations of improper conduct at one point or another. It happened for .EU (no auctions used). It happened before that for .BIZ (auctions) or .INFO (no auctions).

The thing is, new extension launches have become so complex and domains themselves such a valuable commodity that it seems almost inevitable that some mud-slinging from people have who failed to secure the names they wanted will ensue. It doesn't mean there's any truth in those accusations, but it doesn't mean that they are not true either.

Let's just hope DotAsia does what is necessary to get to the bottom of this and, hopefully, prove that their Sunrise auction process was not gamed by Pool or anybody else.

http://www.stephanevangelder.com/arc...-auctions.html

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作者: burninroom

我有一個重要關鍵保留字*.com.tw當初依.Asia Registry公告
連結:http://www.dotasia.org/info/DotAsia-Sunrise-FINALCALL-TEMPLATE_TC.pdf上所示(藍色字)
"如果您已擁有在亞洲區內某些特定國家頂級域名(ccTLD)
內註冊的域名(例如﹕.com.au, .co.jp, .co.kr, .com.hk等等),您就自動合資格優先註冊.Asia域名",
但在我提出申請後,在開放個人的預註冊LandRush前兩天才被被.Asia Registry通知因為域名與公司名不同而判為資格不符.
那上述Asia Registry公告連結的DM是騙審查錢的了,先騙你繳錢申請審查,然後再找理由說你資格不符.

这个是没有异议的，你说的这个申请程序我了解过了，DotASIA要求的是“具有严格限制本地使用权的后缀”才有资格申请相同的.asia，.com.tw、.hk、.com.cn、.cn等等都没有资格申请~~~